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Fan speed setting does not persist through Windows updates causing frequent crashes.

I have a very serious problem with how Global Overdrive manages my GPU's fan speed.

As the title states, my Radeon settings do not persist after updates from Windows. I have had 2 of those in the past 2 days each followed by a crash the next time I try to use the system.

Is there something wrong with the way my drivers are installed or configured or is there an avenue for people who need to -ensure- 100% fan speed at all times?

**Update**

There's been more crashing due to no fans today, during disk operations.

My C:/ drive is at this point very inconsistent. This is my work station and it is un-usable until I put significant money and time into it.

Put yourself in my shoes and imagine how I feel about this.

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benman2785
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Afterburner or similar running?

PC: R7 2700X @PBO + RX 580 4G (1500MHz/2000MHz CL16) + 32G DDR4-3200CL14 + 144hz 1ms FS P + 75hz 1ms FS
Laptop: R5 2500U @30W + RX 560X (1400MHz/1500MHz) + 16G DDR4-2400CL16 + 120Hz 3ms FS
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Nope, I guess my Radeon software edition is "Crimson ReLive" version 17.7

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i repeat - MSI Afterburner or similar running?

PC: R7 2700X @PBO + RX 580 4G (1500MHz/2000MHz CL16) + 32G DDR4-3200CL14 + 144hz 1ms FS P + 75hz 1ms FS
Laptop: R5 2500U @30W + RX 560X (1400MHz/1500MHz) + 16G DDR4-2400CL16 + 120Hz 3ms FS
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Yes I have drivers for my graphics card. Its not software made by MSI like afterburner.

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you dont want to understand i think

do you USE programms like MSI Afterburner or Fraps or OBS or XSplit?

is your GPU-Bios modified? or are you willing to modify your bios?

PC: R7 2700X @PBO + RX 580 4G (1500MHz/2000MHz CL16) + 32G DDR4-3200CL14 + 144hz 1ms FS P + 75hz 1ms FS
Laptop: R5 2500U @30W + RX 560X (1400MHz/1500MHz) + 16G DDR4-2400CL16 + 120Hz 3ms FS
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Some more INFORMATION REQUIRED WHEN POSTING A QUESTION​ could help with troubleshooting your issue.

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Describe your system:

  • AMD Graphics Card
    • MSI Radeon R9 270X
  • Desktop or Laptop System
    • Desktop
  • Operating System
    • Windows 10 pro 64bit
  • Driver version installed
    • Radeon Software Edition: Crimson ReLive 17.7
  • Display Devices
    • ViewSonic VG2236wm-LED 59Hz 1920 x 1080 connected in DVI using the HDMI port on the card
    • Benq Model: ET-0026-B  Type: G2222HDH 60Hz 1920 x 1080 connected in DVI-I
  • Motherboard + Bios Revision
    • MSI 970A-G46 Bios Version: Listed as "American Megatrends Inc. V2.6" in System Information, "Ver: 04.06.05" in DirectX Diagnostic
  • CPU/APU
    • AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor 4.00 GHz
  • Power Supply Unit  Make, Model & Wattage
    • Thermaltake TR2 700W
  • RAM
    • 8GB

Describe your issue:

  • A Windows update will happen, my fan speed will be rolled back to "auto" which just means 18% at all time.

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To give benman's question a proper response, no I don't use Afterburner (which I thought looked like one of MSI's version of the drivers or an alternative) or Fraps/OBS/XSplit at the moment.

I am looking into any possible fix for this so thank you for bringing up BIOS modification. It seems like it would be a step further than what I need to do but so far it's the only lead.

ok - now please post your settings of FanSpeed in Wattman

PC: R7 2700X @PBO + RX 580 4G (1500MHz/2000MHz CL16) + 32G DDR4-3200CL14 + 144hz 1ms FS P + 75hz 1ms FS
Laptop: R5 2500U @30W + RX 560X (1400MHz/1500MHz) + 16G DDR4-2400CL16 + 120Hz 3ms FS
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You may want to think about disabling driver updates from windows updates.

Check the group policy option in this Tut.,

There's a list of other 'related tuts.' at the bottom of it also.

Not sure what you mean by C drive inconsistent (maybe need to scan for bad sectors ?).

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There's been a number of power outages on top of the three crashes after window's "Fall creator update" some of which I did pull the plug on so I shouldn't complain.

So now, most of the time, when I try to access Explorer from the task bar it will take like 10 sec to work (although from folders on the desktop it's fine...), deleting something will take like 10 sec as well and trying to open the start menu from the task bar doesn't work at all unless I leave for 20 min.

On some boots, though, everything is fine. Like one out of three times, I just have to reboot if it isn't.

**Update**

Based on this information: Windows 10 Start menu issues

It sounds like the issues I'm having aren't about the drive being brought to a crawl by physical damages to it but by a byproduct of the "Win10 Fall Creators Update" or, from what I understand, the new version of it. My start menu is still broken most of the time though, the fix in the article above is not definitive.

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You may want to query your OS issues on 'tenforums.com' (save you surfing the web).

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Here's a screenshot of my fan speed in Wattman and it does illustrate the issue:

Wattman.png

The first part is me opening up the application and seeing that the setting is back on "auto" and then the graph peaks up when the fans are going at 100% where I'm most comfortable having them.

It does seem there are significant issues with a recent Windows update on my system. I'm going to attempt untangling those first as they seem to be causing me and my PC a great deal of confusion.

Thank you for your patience and help.

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I know a lot of the members here advocate using wattman and it's fan control.. Not me.

I use MSI Afterburner for my RX580 and used it for R9 290x and 5870 and I even use it for my APU system.

If you want to use it, open radeon settings and on the home page at the bottom, click on preferences and then RESTORE Factory defaults. That will get rid of wattman.

Install Afterburner, set a fan curve and forget.  Ok oK, not quite that simple but spend some time fiddling with afterburner and you'll figure it out.

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