When will you fix it
What issue are you referring to?
Not all of the Catalyst features have been moved over to our Crimson drivers yet.
Where are Advanced video settings , video quality settings? Please brig those back. Video cards are use to watch movies, video editing not just gaming. This is terrible step back. I don't understand how crimson driver is better then CCC. well it starts faster but half of the functionality is gone. I'm long time fun but this is really frustrating. For years people complain about ATI/AMD drivers. So AMD decides to improve it but removing video settings. I game to and I want new updated driver like any other gamer. AMD has no right to remove functionality from non legacy card. I have R9 290 and at the time of purchase driver had advanced video settings and now you want me throw this card away. This is absolutely outrageous.
I'll pass on your feedback, thank you.
See other threads I'm not only one who wants it back and need this option to be working
Crimson Advanced Video Settings missing?
Myself and my dedicated colleague, ray_m, will ensure your feedback reaches the right people within AM.
I have already escalated your feedback to the appropriate team.
However, a decision was made to remove these features and it is unlikely they will be brought back.
Hi Ray, Matt,
Is this functionality definitely descoped? I work in software development, so I totally understand these are niche features and the product owner(s) may have made the call to deprecate them.
AMD (ATI) have been market leaders in video processing functionality for years. I know I am in a minority as a Home Theater PC user, but it seems a shame to lose this - particularly as a new deinterlacing mode was added only recently.
If the features won't be brought back into scope are there are any manual workarounds to control the settings in the registry?
So you **** are saying I bought my r9 390x for nothing??? I had a 270x but I passed over to the 390x because it had more advanced video settings. My friends told me to buy Nvidia, but I got used to those AMD video settings so opted from Nvidia.
This is the day I stop supporting and defending AMD.
I will sell all my AMD junk components and switch to Intel and Nvidia, finally.
Goodbye AMD and good riddance!
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Happy to sell you a couple of 980 Ti's...
...they come included with a slight metallic smoky odor, but since you are a fanboy...their drivers and support team for "smoky" video cards should provide Y O U with so-called "superior" performance that a nvidia fanboy is willing to accept over the years.
What a silly comment... Crimson driver is just a shame. Do you even understand the issue here? I too purchased the " video card" from AMD R 290 for it certain functionality....Now its gone.. That simply is not right. I game i want updated driver to play but i need also my advanced video setting.. By the way GPU since I remember is called "VIDEO CARD" not gaming card....
What features specifically? The video quality settings and other advanced settings? Shouldn't those things be standard with video card software? There's no reason why you can't include them like you did with Catalyst. You can have the simplified options for novice users and the advanced options for experienced users. I really hope AMD will rethink that position because it'll just be one more thing that Nvidia will have and use over AMD --- more features and advanced options.
Hi Matt and Ray,
First, thanks for your help to let our feedback to the team.
Advanced video settings is one of key factor that let people choose AMD video card and become fan of AMD.
If AMD not add back them when release new card that only supported by Crimson, I think most people will not insist to use AMD card again.
Advanced video options are a MUST and should have stayed at least in the legacy catalyst CCC.
This is a terrible decision made by cheap and lazy product owners or whatever...
Bring back the advanced settings!!
I'm sorry sir, where do I get half my money back?
If features I payed for were suddenly "de-scoped", how do I "descope" my money from AMD?
Guys (AMD staff), You REALLY have to understand that given the state of the market, you don't have the luxury of making customers angry. Especially on a matter this important. You always claimed that quality-wise, your products were/are superior to the competition. By removing such a novelty not only will you send customers away, you can loose potential new customers when this matter becomes known outside your forum section.
As much as we like your company and as much we want to help you recover from the financial state your company is by purchasing products that are, let's say not so competing, removing a feature so significant will only harm your sales and eventually your company. Because let's face it, there's always an alternative.
I'm a happy FX-8350 + HD 7970 user but believe me, if you don't fix such an important problem, i won't hesitate to switch to the competition. And if all AMD fans do so, well, i guess you CAN understand where this will lead.
It's really disappointing...
Problem is, this doesn't get know outside their forum section
Apparently people who care for video hardware are not only niche... they aren't people really out in stuff like social media?
Do a check on reviews on youtube for crimson.... it's always "wonderful", "perfect", "nvidia should learn from this"... Couldn't find a single review that considered anything else beside game settings. :X
Not even adding we here are only complaining about the lack of video settings... if we go talk about UX and how using 3 different CPs for one card is bad UX, well that's whole big topic
Was thinking about doing some reviewing on this myself for youtube, intel gpu vs nvidia vs amd, no1 did one of those for years, maybe its time? But then again, most of us around seem to not have that free time to do it?
You're right. It's unfortunate because those missing setting actually DO add the the product value and having them removed is bad. They are going on and on about the better pixels blah blah blah and they do this which makes pixels worse..
Oh well, i guess now i know what i'm going to buy on my next generation, and it won't be what i was purchasing for so many years.
AMD...please explain what the "DEFAULT" setting means in video options? Can you please remove that option? It's a non-word that means absolutely nothing. (Like 'surface format optimizations...which AMD decided to keep in the new format..and default it to 'enabled'). Personally, I use Kodi as my video player. It has more useful controls and settings than all the available AMD choices put together. It is ruined by Crimson. Why? Instead of giving us the option to "Use Video Player Settings" (as in CCC) you give us "Default".
AMD...please explain what the "DEFAULT" setting means in video options? ray_m amdmatt
The capabilities and video profiles vary greatly across Radeon graphics cards and video content, this was true even with the finer grain controls in the old Catalyst Control Center. As we update and improve the video profiles from driver to driver, it's not possible to give you complete specifics of what is and isn't enabled in each profile, as this is in a state of flux and can change from driver to driver. It's constantly being updated and improved for every profile apart from Default and Vivid.
The video profiles in Radeon Settings have been designed to makes things easier, just select a profile that matches your content or viewing environment and we'll take it from there and make the video viewing experience better within the capabilities of your graphics card.
To answer your question, as a general rule;
Default = No adjustments, no video algorithms.
Vivid = Everything possible that your graphics card can utilise to improve the experience. Everything is enabled and improved for the best video viewing experience.
Each profile has a specified use;
Default – Uses factory default video settings.
Cinema – Intended for viewing movies in home theatres and dim environments.
Enhanced –Intended for general viewing and boosting overall picture quality.
Home Video – Intended for viewing home recordings.
Outdoor – Intended for viewing videos in bright environments.
Sports –Intended for viewing fast-motion videos.
Vivid – Intended to provide the highest level of picture quality.
If you want a bit more control, you can use the custom setting and adjust some features that are available on your graphics card. Enable Demo Mode in Radeon Settings under the Video tab when watching a video on your computer and it will split the video into two sections, allowing you to monitor the changes each profile makes to the video in real time.
Should you wish to keep using the original video controls that were available in Catalyst Control Center, then i would recommend to keep using Catalyst 15.11.1 Beta which can be downloaded here. www.amd.com/beta
Using Catalyst 15.11.1 Beta is not a solution because most of us also want the graphical improvements/bugfixes from the newer drivers. I know it's possible to update to Crimson drivers while still using Catalyst Control Center (as I'm currently doing) but some of the adv. options in Catalyst are now broken after updating to 16.3 drivers. I posted about it already CCC + Crimson 16.3 drivers -- Video quality options gone? There's not much point in using Catalyst if the newer drivers don't fully work on it.
Again I don't understand why AMD has to force a simplified interface with anemic options onto everybody. Taking away choice from advanced users should never be the way to go. There are many experienced users who want and need to fully customize all the features to their own liking. It's not like there were that many advanced video options to start with. With Crimson there's practically none.
I will pass on your feedback guys, thank you.
Agree with Darkbeast - your approach here is wrong, sorry. Simplifying the UI is fine but not at the expense of the advanced features.
What I and others don't understand...why remove the ability to use the settings and optimizations of our chosen video player that has been a available option for years? Adding Default (no optimizations) doesn't benefit anyone. 'Use Video player settings' allows a choice....AMD perceived 'best' settings, or the users 'best' settings. Seems awful familiar...Win10 heavy handed "I know what is best for you" comes to mind? Use AMD optimizations or no optimizations (default)....sounds like a choice between polio or cancer. I am sure there is one person who makes these kind of decisions. What I'm not sure of, is whether that person is aware of the negative feedback from users (and the reasons for it) and whether that person is responsible enough to recognize it is a mistake and reverse the decision .
No to even mention settings names are wrong and misleading.
After some settings I noticed disabling 'edge enhancement' for examples reverts deinterlacing to 'bob' mode, something i don't really use since the end of the 90's
The new video controls are a failure plain and simple. I tried to use the new profiles but couldn't handle it. Sport mode had adaptive deinterlacing but the post processing was so extreme the picture had a visible artificial shine. Disabling everything gave me bob which, as you say, is a remnant of 20 years ago.
Had AMD (ATI) not built the best video processing capabilities into their cards this wouldn't be such a big deal, but they did and have specifically marketed these advanced capabilities.
Did you test your card with each profiles? You accept the wrong preset video quality?
Each profile cannot get the best result to the video. Whatever let the video over sharp or the motion blurred.
This is very serious that AMD want to kill yourself on your video goodwill which establishd for many many years!
Also, AMD tell the user use back Catalyst is very stupid.
AMD want us to keep our old card forever and never buy your new card?
We will not buy any new AMD video card in the future as they must not support Catalyst !
Your explanation is just not good enough. Your presets are not working. Every setting on my setup makes in worst. Vivid to bright and so on. We need to be able fine tune video settings.
Why don't you simplify setting for gamers too, like ability to turn it On-VSYC. Game will run faster..... or in presets turn off Ambient Occlusion it also speeds up game. You simply can't because every reviewer would destroy you. You can only get away with it because, this days, no one review HTPC capabilities of video card driver. This is a shame that now I have to choose between game ready driver or video quality of videos. Shame on you AMD.
Me too I find it a real shame that there's features that were already there since years go but suddently have now disappeared, and you dare to call this "progress"?!
Yes the new UI looks better and start-up much faster but what's the point if half of the features are missing? It's not like if I'd care that it would load any faster since it's usualy just a "Set & Forget".
Also when you click on "More" to learn more details, it says nothing at all about what each preset does or what each features in the "Custom" actualy do. Was it so hard to hire someone for 30 minute to type down the information/description? I'm stuck having to search around the Internet and here to know basic stuff that should already had been there since the very beginning of the new Crimson software.
Crimson Edition 16.5.2 did you fixed/added advanced video setting in this release????? I want to play DOOM.... But i don't want to install new drivers to play and then reinstall catalyst to watch video on my HTPC.
Please bring video settings back !!!!!!!!
Any updates? Are these settings available now in Crimson 16.5.2?
I am still using Catalsyt 15.11 for my setups, I even fixed Windows 10 from auto updating to Crimson because I use those advanced calibrations for my HTPCs.
Not back in 16.5.2 nor 188.8.131.52.
What are people planning on doing since AMD have abandoned support of this? I assume nVidia is the only choice, but have no idea where their video quality is at nowadays.
My brother owns a GTX 970, so I ran some tests on his machine (actually before going R9, had a HD4770 before), here my opnions :3:
I'm not sure what method they use, but it has a too high threshold, so its very common to have interlaced lines 'left over' in real interlaced video.
Their ivtc is alright, I didn't notice any problems in movies. It had a fail-rate bigger than Radeon when the topic is mixed content like music videos. But then again, Radeon isn't flawless here, nothing is.
Their upscaling is... "meh", it was actually the reason I decided to stick to amd (this was before I installled the R9 and found out crimson disaster).
While amd does something that looks like lanczos3 with super res... nvidia does something that looks like a plain bi-linear upscale. Their "edge enhancements" algorithms does do much either, they look just like a plane sharpen filter without any threshold.
- Denoising: This is something I really didn't even try at nvidia as I don't really like denoising.
I also tried intel, but well, I would put it like this AMD>Nvidia>Intel. So I don't think its even worthy to mention what I do think of their stuff.
My solution so far is to use some player that can use madvr + lav codecs.
LAV uses yadif deinterlacer, which gives results very similar to what I had in HD4770.
Madvr have a myriad of upscaling and refinement options. After a lot of time settings madvr up, I would say that, for my 'video taste':
HD4770 > Madvr+Lav > R9
Of course, the 2 big downsides for me:
- CPU usage.
- Being stranded to a player. Jeez I never thought I would back to software solutions for video processing in middle of 2016
(Seems that since HD4770 to most recent models the sharpen edge algorithm from amd changed to something similar to warpsharp (which I hate), so I still find the results in my older HD4470 better than R9 with Catalyst)
To add up... I just used Catalyst on R9 for a couple of days, then moved back to crimson. I could not fathom using an old driver in my new rig -.- (if I wanted to keep using old drivers I could as well have kept my old hardware )
Bottomline: Until I have ... murdered the *ATI* fanboy inside of me they have some chance to return what they took from me (probably not much longer than a couple months). My solution for video playback has become 100% hardware independent, so Nvidia not being "good enough" is no longer a problem, amd isn't either anymore.
Taking even more space, and leaving this up to anyone who has the will reply me, is there any reason left to pick AMD over Nvidia now that it's no longer useful for media?
is there any reason left to pick AMD over Nvidia now that it's no longer useful for media?
You really REALLY like the color red?
I switched from Nvidia because they basically didn't give a sh|t about supporting their older cards anymore. I had a GTX 460 and there was a case a few years ago where loads of people with Fermi cards couldn't update their drivers. We would get the "display driver has stopped responding" error and freezes with using Firefox browser. To the point where Nvidia made a thread asking people to send in their videocards so they could test them. That thread had over a hundred pages. This problem lasted like a year. Imagine not being able to update your video drivers for a year? Eventually they fixed it and everything was good for awhile but then the problem returned again later. After my card died I decided I had enough of Nvidia and went with AMD for the first time. Well, AMD's got their own problems as we all can attest to.
Both of these companies can be downright sh|t. All we can do is hope that they listen to customer complaints and give us better drivers. I don't think AMD is doing either very well at the moment.
Superb response - very helpful, thank you.
Doesn't resolve our current problems but I do appreciate the feedback.
Nope no change at all. AMD must think their customers are all novices and/or don't use their computers for watching any type of media.
What a joke! Why would they remove these features! I have checked today and now they have completely removed all aspects of the old CCC - I can no longer change aspects of my monitors' brightness, saturation or contrast etc. either! NOT HAPPY.
Actually that's one of the few "advanced" settings you can still do. You're probably having trouble finding it? Open Radeon Settings, on the bottom click Preferences, then Radeon Additional Settings (the old CCC panel will open up), click Display Panel (Digital Flat-Panel) and you should see the settings.
Guys, I figured out how to access the settings again! Install this driver OVER your current driver (do not uninstall your current driver, just run this one and it will only install the catalyst control centre from it). Catalyst Beta 15.11.1
Afterwards, for me an icon popped up in my system tray (bottom right corner of the screen), if you right click on it, you can choose 'Catalyst Control Centre', and it gives you all of the old options , including video options! :).
If you go to the Video>Quality page does it look all wrong?
This solution only worked for older crimson versions -.-
Yes, you're right man. Thanks for showing me where to find it, they've really buried it deep within the interface. There used to be an additional settings button, which they have now removed. I looked in RadeonMod and all those missing features are now in red, the registry entries are completely gone.. so it would seem that the features have just been completely removed. What this indicates to me is that these features would require AMD to do extra work for compatibility with new cards, which they seemingly don't want to do, so they've decided to remove them. How lazy is that! AMD, NOT COOL! Bring these features back if you care about your customers.
Advanced Settings disappear. I`m play CS:GO on 1280x960 4:3 after update amd drivers, Catalyst Panel disappeared, and i can't play in standart resolution...
I'll try to instalar 15.11 drivers and wait for a fix for this problem.
I'd also like to encourage AMD to ensure they provide sufficient user control and customisation over video settings in Radeon Settings.
for chrisakes, it's been over a year, and AMD still hasn't fixed their drivers. i have a 7750 that chokes at 1280x720, i need it at 1360x768 which it claims is not a supported value. flash and YouTube have become nightmares of freezing and complete lockups.
is AMD tanking or something? this is horrid customer service.
if i can't get the original CCC disc to run i may be forced to go to nVidia simply to get my monitor working correctly (again).
interim fix (similar available at parent page) for w7-64bit: Legacy
I also have a 7750, the Sapphire Ultimate fanless, and I am using it to run at 2560x1440 with no problems using Crimson 16.5.3. I have no problems watching 1080p 60fps youtube, netflix, amazon etc. But I never use the flash player in my browser, I uninstalled it years ago. Maybe try disabling flash plugin and see if that works for you? I suggest creating a seperate thread, you might get more help if you open a new one.
-instalar ultima version 16.12.2
-bajar este archivo CCCSlim.rar - Google Drive
-luego de instalar ir a "" C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD\CNext """
-reemplazar la carpeta CCCSlim
-listo ahora pueden disfrutar de advanced video settings
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